{"id":758,"date":"2005-10-20T23:46:00","date_gmt":"2005-10-21T08:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/20\/internet-intranet-extranet-and-federnet\/"},"modified":"2013-03-15T21:47:38","modified_gmt":"2013-03-16T06:47:38","slug":"483335","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/20\/483335\/","title":{"rendered":"Internet, Intranet, Extranet&#8230; and Federnet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P>Hi there!<BR>This may be a bit ahead of its time, and it will sound to many as an exercise in empty &#8220;formalism&#8221;: but I believe it may be food for thought for some others, so here it is \ud83d\ude42 <BR><STRONG>Summary:<\/STRONG> I propose it will be useful to have a collective name for the portfolio of resources accessible by a company via federation agreements, as the prominence of such a portfolio IMHO will steadily grow.<BR><STRONG>Yadda yadda:<\/STRONG> Today all the &#8220;online&#8221; resources fall in one (or more) of the following categories: intranet, internet and extranet. This is a pretty handy subdivision, not only because it expresses&nbsp;where a resource lives:&nbsp;it conveys clearly the level of access I have on&nbsp;that resource, the contexts from which I can leverage it, which capabilities I can expect and so on and so forth. I can use that distinction to decide what to make of a resource. However, from the functional&nbsp;perspective that taxonomy can sometime lose its effectiveness, there are grey zones. If I partner with an external company, I can access their resources better than if I were a generic net surfer: so when I consider how to leverage those resources as an asset it&#8217;s not efficient to treat them as belonging to the Internet category. Yet I wouldn&#8217;t say that they are now in my extranet, as they are not under my control (except for the part covered by the partnering contract),&nbsp;and <EM>a fortiori<\/EM> that they are in my intranet! So how would I call this situation? Today I don&#8217;t give a name to it, maybe the pattern does not appear often enough or it simply surfaces in such a variety of forms that it&#8217;s difficult to focus on it. There are so many different ways of partnering that it&#8217;s not the matter of speaking of the lack of a standard: there&#8217;s not even a customary way of doing it. If I see a star shaped cloud, I call it a star shaped cloud if anything (that&#8217;s to say I <EM>describe<\/EM> it, I don&#8217;t <EM>call <\/EM>it): if start shaped clouds would start to appear in big quantity everyday in wintertime I bet metereologists would soon&nbsp;start to call it&nbsp;stellanembus or some&nbsp;even less likely&nbsp;name.<BR>Fast forward some time in the future: WS-* sank down in the infrastructure layers, and everybody happily take advantage of it without even knowing it&#8217;s there anymore. Things which today are hard to implement, like the above mentioned&nbsp;cross company partnering, became super easy for the technical point of view (or, if you don&#8217;t want to see it that way, at least there is a defined way of partnering which has wide consensus) and what&#8217;s left is just the commercial contract part. I&#8217;m not an economist, but I can imagine that this will promote new business models in which other company&#8217;s services&nbsp;are seen more and more often like an asset, which can be leveraged in a similar way to the internal resources. Maybe something not radically different from today in sustance, rather a matter of reaching a critical mass. Those aggregates, guess what, could be appropriately called <STRONG>federations<\/STRONG> (hey, I finally said the word) from the identity management point of view. From the wire point of view, those resources are probably accessed in the same way as the internal ones: ok, in house I use kerberos and for them I&#8217;ve to shop at their STS to bargain a SAML; does that change the life of my devs? You bet it doesn&#8217;t. For the design and business perspective, however, those are a different category: the relationships must be mantained, contracts (in paper, not in square brakets:)) must be signed &amp; renewed, the SLAs must be verified, the claims mapped, etc etc. So it will make sense, as it does now, to treat resources &#8220;borrowed&#8221; from external entities according to their specific values and drawbacks (this doesn&#8217;t diminish the value of *accessing* them with the same ease as the internal ones, courtesy of the WS-* gang). <BR>In other words, IMHO it will be useful to have a collective name for the portfolio of resources which are available to a company thanks to federation agreements, irrespective of their physical location.&nbsp;I don&#8217;t know if that portfolio will be called Fnet, Fednet, Federnet or any other assonance with the *net theme or if it will depart completely from a location based schema: however it will be, I&#8217;m rather convinced that we will need a name for it \ud83d\ude42<BR>Think of a typical meeting: &#8220;OK, the bill for this pay per use service is out of control, yet it makes no sense to build one in-house: maybe it&#8217;s time to extend our Federnet with somebody who perform the same functions?&#8221;<\/P><br \/>\n<P>P.S.: didn&#8217;t I mentioned in the former post that I would have been more practical in the future? Well, you&#8217;re a b&nbsp; s o l u t e l y&nbsp;&nbsp; right. But this stuff was buzzing in my head, and writing about it was a good way to get rid of it \ud83d\ude42 If you are eager of rock solid enablers for the federated world of tomorrow available today or almost, go visit <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/andyhar\/\">Andy&#8217;s blog<\/A>. It will be hard to find a better resource about Infocard.&nbsp;<\/P><\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi there!This may be a bit ahead of its time, and it will sound to many as an exercise in empty &#8220;formalism&#8221;: but I believe it may be food for thought for some others, so here it is \ud83d\ude42 Summary: I propose it will be useful to have a collective name for the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[61,60],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-758","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-architecture-ws","category-wild-ideas"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/758","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=758"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/758\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1838,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/758\/revisions\/1838"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=758"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=758"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cloudidentity.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=758"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}